Posted by Dan on Jul 15, '06 6:19 PM for everyone
I recently discovered two interesting things:
  1. Canon's TC-80N3 intervalometer ($130ish) makes it possible for their mid-range (EOS-20D, EOS-30D) and professional (EOS-5D, EOS-1D) digital SLRs to take exposures at timed intervals.
  2. Canon's low-end digital SLRs, including the Digital Rebel XT (EOS-350D) I use, are not compatible with the TC-80N3, and third-party solutions like the Zigview R are quite expensive ($250+).


However, whilst poking around last night, I pieced together three other facts:
  1. The Digital Rebel XT supports the RS-60E3 ($20ish) remote switch, which I have, for "bulb" releases to prevent camera shake, or do arbitrarily long exposures.
  2. The XT does timed exposures up to 30 seconds, and can do long-exposure dark frame subtraction for anything over 1 second at ISO/ASA 1600 or anything over 30 seconds at lower ISO/ASA settings, taking as long for the subtraction as it does for the timed exposure.
  3. The XT has a "motor drive," and will cheerfully take one shot after another.
So I plugged in my RS-60E3, set the XT for ISO/ASA 1600 and 30-second timed exposures, with dark frame subtraction on, found an aperture that kept things from being too bright, and locked the RS-60E3 in the "on" position, just as I would do for a "bulb" release longer than 30 seconds.

It did a 30-second exposure, followed by 30 seconds of dark frame subtraction... followed by another 30-second exposure, followed by another 30 seconds of dark frame subtraction... I walked away and let it do its thing.



You can see the results of this in two short time-lapse videos I made:
Giant Space Laser Time-Lapse
UH88 timelapse

Each of these is about 36 minutes of real time, at one exposure per minute. Tonight I hope to put together some significantly longer time-lapse sequences. I may opt to leave out the dark-frame subtractions, to get 2 30-second exposures per minute, or I may go with a wider aperture and use 15-second exposures... wait and see.

So, basically, if you're willing to limit yourself to taking N-second exposures every N seconds (or every 2N seconds if N is 30 or you're using ASA 1600 and N is at least 1), the XT and its cheap bulb release provide some basic intervalometer functionality. It's not terribly flexible, and the requirement for long exposures makes it pretty useless during the day, but in the dark of night, the results can be quite nice.

This may also work with the original Digital Rebel (EOS-300D), but I don't have one of those to try it out on... anybody have one, and an RS-60E3, and want to give it a try?

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jprovo wrote on Jul 16, '06
This is pretty damn cool. I'll have to pick up one of those cable remotes for our rebel . . .
danbirchall wrote on Jul 16, '06
My father has an original Digital Rebel (300D) and informs me that it lacks the XT's "Custom functions" menu, so no dark-frame subtraction. It may still be able to do 30-second exposures one after another, though.

I shot about 5.5 hours of time-lapse last night, but am now grappling with how to align batches of frames, since frame alignment changed slightly each time I took the camera off the tripod, swapped battery and flash card, and put it back on. :(
eileenquim wrote on Jul 28, '06
This is exactly what I've been trying to find out how to do. Thanks.

But I don't know how to turn the stills into a video. Do you mind explaining that part?
danbirchall wrote on Jul 29, '06
This is exactly what I've been trying to find out how to do. Thanks.

But I don't know how to turn the stills into a video. Do you mind explaining that part?
Sure! I use Apple's QuickTime (Pro, most likely), which has an "Open Image Sequence" function. I put all the photos in a folder, pick the first one, tell it how many frames per second I want, and it sucks 'em all in and I save it as a video.

QuickTime is available for Windows and Mac; I'm sure there are other things that can do something similar.
eileenquim wrote on Jul 29, '06
Thanks for the quick reply. I'll try it!
mystii wrote on Jul 30, '06
i'm looking into getting a digital camera for a photography book idea i have. the strapping young lad at the Apple store recommended the Rebel. any other experience w/digital cameras and such you care to share? what you've done w/the time lapse shots are pretty nifty.
eileenquim wrote on Jul 31, '06
The Canon Rebel XT, which I have, is great. I recommend the 17-85 lens, which is better than the 17-55. You can most everything with it except photograph speedboat races.
danbirchall wrote on Jul 31, '06
except photograph speedboat races.
You've tried, then? ;)
lumenbeat wrote on Feb 12, '07, edited on Feb 12, '07
I think I have this working with my new Dig Reb XTi. I didn't quite understand your directions (I'm very new to DSLRs) but this is what I did. I put it in Tv mode, with 1" exposure, and then set the Continuous shooting option, then as you said, left the switch of the RS60-e3 down. Works well!! I was using my laptop to control my old G3 but your idea is way cool. Now I just need a good portable power supply for long projects away from an outlet. Thanks!
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mhbaker wrote on May 3
Hello

Trying to find out if this will work on the Canon 10D. Would you know if this would work, or could you please direct me to any site I haven't discovered yet that would tell me. Thank you in advance; Mark
danbirchall wrote on May 3
mhbaker said
Hello

Trying to find out if this will work on the Canon 10D. Would you know if this would work, or could you please direct me to any site I haven't discovered yet that would tell me. Thank you in advance; Mark
I don't have a 10D, but I googled and it's compatible with the Canon TC-80N3 intervalometer - which would give you far more capabilities than the RS-60E3 remote switch I've described using. :)
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